When I first heard this sermon I was going to state how much of a Godly man John Piper is. Then I heard him swear. Instantly I lost my sanctification and dropped to my knees and repented for thinking those thoughts about John Piper and for hearing such foul language. I see his message, which started out great, was one that I could not even finish as it was so offensive because of its language! This is proof of the infection of the emerging emergents that are out there swearing in every sermon they do! We can thank Mark Driscoll and Tony Jones for influencing once godly men like John Piper and leading them to lose their sanctification.
Now, before you worry, I confessed for an hour per letter in that four letter word and now I am pure again.
(Oh crap! I just listened to the sermon again as I tried to post it to make sure it works… now I need go and repent again!)
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God,
I. Todyaso
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donjobson
April 1, 2008 at 10:04 pm |
You threw the first stone.
April 1, 2008 at 10:54 pm |
Tyler,
I will be doing a study on “biblical” stoning and that it is still approved of in the NT. If you notice is it in the Levitical Law and that it is reference numerous times in the NT. Because of this I believe it is a “Christian” practise that is being ignore and through true revival need be reinstated as the Truth it is. It would be a great tool in our Truth War arsenal.
I. Todyaso
April 2, 2008 at 7:18 am |
Laodiceans,
I have been concerned about Rev Piper since he wrote a book that included a chapter by Mark Driscoll. Piper is bad news.
Struggling
April 2, 2008 at 10:14 am |
John Piper is awesome… Don’t give him a bad rap. Overall, he’s a sound teacher.
April 23, 2008 at 8:48 am |
Your comments on that one word are way over the top. In the UK ‘crap’ isn’t a swear word to most people. To say damn is a swear word in the UK but not in many parts of America. Actually the apostle Paul uses a similar word when he says “I counted all things as crap (slang Greek word for cow manure) compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ…” I don’t like bad language and Christians often use it without thinking, but in defense of Piper I think he is absolutely right in this case.
April 23, 2008 at 8:55 am |
Paul,
I was riding very high today in my sanctification until I read the crap… errr the manure you are spreading in that comment. Now I must go back into my prayer closet and purge myself of my sin before God so I can go before the Cross sinless and have to worry Jesus.
You need to be more careful in your language. I mean you sound like an Emergent who cares little about the crap… errr the things you say that could offend American Christians.
You must realize we Americans set the standard of Holiness and Bible interpretation.
So, Paul go and wash your mouth out with some Limey soap and don’t blame your foul language on the Greeks!
Repent because,
I. Todyaso
April 24, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
Haha. What a lol. S**t and f**k. You people are hilarious.
April 24, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
I assume you must go to Mark Driscoll’s church. Not much more to say on that.
I. Todyaso
April 24, 2008 at 5:15 pm |
Oh no! What have I done? Maybe I could go to my prayer closet and try get my sanctification back. Incidentally, which sermon does this article refer to? (to guard myself from it, of course)
April 24, 2008 at 5:28 pm |
Mike,
I just left my closet and regained my sanctification after reading your comments. Though Luther often used the “S” word, Since Mark Driscoll used it, it is no longer sanctified.
Now, the sermon in question is the one that in the Youtube player in this post. It seemed obvious to me, yet I guess if you are a Driscollian it may be confusing to you whether what we consider to be swearing is or not.
My prayers are with you as you trust in our GIFT of Discernment.
Now, please observe the rule (which we have not posted yet) about using swear words. Rule one is that if it is in the bible you may use it. You may use though we will edit it if a Reformer or Puritans used the word. Unless Mark Driscoll used the word once. Then that word has lost it’s sanctification. Note if Steve Camp or Ken Silva or Chris Pajak uses the word they are exempt becuase they are ultra sanctified.
Believe me,
I. Todyaso
April 25, 2008 at 1:07 pm |
Todyaso,
I have read a few of your articles and your responses to others comments and am somewhat concerned. You come across as very prideful and self righteous as you continually lose your sanctification and have to go atone for your sins. Please keep in mind that our Lord and Savior was humble and wants us to live in humility as well. I am not trying to bash you but am only a concerned brother in Christ.
In Him,
Ryan
April 25, 2008 at 4:09 pm |
Ryan,
Thank you. We here try hard to please OUR God and are glad when someone like you see OUR fruit. May OUR God bless you as He seems to finally opened your eyes to the “truth” of the Truth Wars” We fight for our Great and Wonderful Leader who wrote the book on it.
I hope you come around more. Thanks again for the compliments. Jesus needs all the help we can give to protect Him, His Truth, and OUR Doctrines. As long as you are humble to OUR doctrines, OUR truth, and OUR God, you too can atone for your own sins It is our “Lordship Salvation” that saves us.
Grace to you,
I. Todyaso
April 25, 2008 at 4:13 pm |
Friends,
I think all of you are going to hell in a handbasket. You are all apostate. Go to the Puritans thou sluggards and learn from their pristine, beautiful uber-santimoni-fied speech. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. There’s just no room in the church for people who mock The Right Rev Our Father His Holiness Dr Piper II, esq.
You guys need help. I’m going to Ingrid’s where I can get some clean conversation.
jerry
April 25, 2008 at 9:35 pm |
Todyaso,
I am not more than concerned I am horified by your own blindess, I pray that MY Lord, Jesus Christ, who has saved such an undeserving sinner as I will open your eyes that you may believe in Him, and truly give your life to Him and his servant and slave. I am a firm believer in Lordship salvation, and Jesus Christ is the Lord of my life, I do all things to His glory and honor to the best of my ability as He has graciously allowed.
In regards to Dr. John MacArthur, I find him to be a wonderful God honoring man who is an amazing teacher and pastor. I would also consider my self a student of his as I have sat under his teaching at both Grace Community Church and at the Master’s college where he is President. I am confident to say that he too, as I am would be horified by the things you say and the way your are disgracing OUR (Dr. MacArthur’s and mine) great Lord.
Ryan
April 25, 2008 at 11:33 pm |
Ryan,
I am not even sure where to begin here. You seem all over the map. One moment you are yelling at me I am not saved, then another affirming OUR doctrine of Lordship Salvation. Then you mockingly disgrace OUR great teacher and author guru John MacArthur with my own words.
Shame on you. It seems you are too blind to see anything without someone point it to you. I hope that if you have a dog it is potty trained and can let itself out as I am not sure what you might step in. If you do, maybe you better check your shoes.
I am glad to here Jesus is just the “Lord of your Life” as some people I know claim they died with Christ and no longer live. In fact they claim that they have not life but the Life of Christ inside them.
Can you imagine claiming Jesus lives inside you? What utter nonsense. It is OUR life and God is OUR Lord and the Blessed John MacArthur is our Apostle to lead us out of the manure pasture of un-enlightenment of the enlightenment. I am also glad to see that you understand what John MacArthur teaches is all about doing the best of “your ability” and not leaning o Christ to live and have His being in you to do His Will and Purpose. The last thing we need is to have Christianity be about Jesus and to lose sight that it is all about me and my salvation. Right?
Now the one thing you are lacking though is discernment. Sadly many who follow John MacArthur miss what the Truth War is about. We are to protect Jesus and the Truth of OUR doctrines.
Now aside from all that, YOUR snide and mocker of John MacArthur makes me see that you must be lying. A true follower of John MacArthur would never attack someone else to protect his own reputation. They are the kindest gentlest people and that church has a ever growing reputation of this. In fact John MacArthur would not make any wide generalizations of anyone. We know that the people tend to be like the Master they follow.
Now, you are wasting my time in attack me, though my holiness has risen more by your persecution. I hope only that you grow in “your ability” and earnestly receive the same Grace to you as we give to all people (as long as they agree with us and are saved).
Even in our suffering,
I. Todyaso
May 15, 2008 at 12:04 pm |
if you’re referring to the word “crap”, you used the word 3 times on the page. wow!
May 16, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
This is one of my favorite video clips because I couldn’t agree more with the Rev. Dr. Piper. The “health and wealth” teaching is nothing but scubalon (see, I know Greek, therefore I don’t have to use the word ‘crap’).
It really is interesting reading the comments, Iggy. It really is. Especially from folks who are most likely in “my camp.”
BTW, I love the Unknown Comic pic.
May 17, 2008 at 9:57 am |
I need to get out more; I didn’t realize using “crap” was a big controversy in the church.
James where do you camp?
May 19, 2008 at 3:59 pm |
Warren,
From his blog I would say just north of the Emergent Village!
I. Todyaso
May 20, 2008 at 3:19 pm |
KOA – Kampgrounds of America, Inc. . . . my theological persuasion is Reformed Baptist.
July 18, 2008 at 12:38 pm |
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July 24, 2008 at 11:52 pm |
sigh…itodyaso…you seem proficient with the theology of glory, now it’s time to learn about the theology of the cross. Please man, it’s time to get real. Since when did Jesus need your protection? You’re a worm and a helpless sinner and He is part of the eternal and all powerful Trinity. If anyone is saved it is because God has saved them by grace through faith in Christ alone. If anyone is lost, it is because they have hardened themselves against the gospel – so follow it through…if we are saved it is God’s work and if we are not saved, it is our fault. And yes…I am Lutheran. And yes your mission statement fits perfectly with…well just read psalm 2 and know you’re currently not one of the good guys. Again, you have absolutely no authority to make the claims you do. Leave your sect and go and sit under a ‘John Piper’ or a Reformed or Lutheran pastor who can teach you what the Gospel truly is and to know your proper place in His kingdom. Amen.
July 25, 2008 at 12:01 am |
Sigh… I do not understand why I get so persecuted. I guess I am blessed. I recommend read more of this blog to get you basic understanding of things straightened out. You can start here. If you don’t get it from that, I recommend you read my deeper biblical teaching on why we need to return to stoning heretics like you.
I. Todyaso
July 28, 2008 at 5:21 pm |
He never swore. Crap is a swear word? C,mon guys, quit fishing for stuff, those who were offended. Did you get his message? Far more important than crap.
July 29, 2008 at 9:11 pm |
Oh my! I read Rick’s comment with the ‘c’ word mentioned twice. I feel so dirty now. What should I do I. Todyaso? How can I sanctify my eyes?
July 29, 2008 at 11:12 pm |
I need to go get some Orbit gum and about 2 hours of re-sanctifying prayer before I lose my eternally secured salvation.
I. Todyaso
July 31, 2008 at 3:24 pm |
this is your gig itod so you can claim whatever you want – your not being persecuted – you are sounding just like shirley phelps over at Westboro BC. check her out on youtube….you need to repent for misinterpreting the scriptures – and you are doing in very badly.
July 31, 2008 at 3:27 pm |
Thanks you for the compliment Mark. I needed the uplifting today.
I. Todyaso
September 18, 2008 at 9:09 am |
Todyaso, you are as blind as the religious teachers of Jesus’ day! What on earth are you on about?!
September 19, 2008 at 10:29 pm |
People just don’t get it do they?
September 20, 2008 at 7:08 pm |
So exactly where was the cuss word ? Talk about splitting hairs and causing tension among the brethren. Never mind that what John Piper said was absolutely true.
October 4, 2008 at 10:45 am |
Tell me what the cuss word is.
If it is crap, you used it too.
October 4, 2008 at 11:03 am |
Jung,
Yes I used that “word” and lost my sanctification until I repented. So far I do not think John Piper has repented for swearing so is still on the non-approved list. After all he also raised a son that is sympathetic to the heretic emerging church so there are lots or questions about him.
Be safe, only read this site and Ken Silva and you will be. Oh, and Chris Rosebrough, he is good. Pastorboy is a closet emerging church so I would be sure to stay away form him unless he agrees with Ken Silva and me. Also we approve of Spurgeon and Tozer (but stay away from their “mystic” side) as well as anyone else we deem not worthy of the grace we have.
Hope that helps as you seem so lost.
I. Todyaso
October 22, 2008 at 12:46 pm |
All I can say about this discussion is, I am not sure what is meant to be taken serious and what isn’t.
October 22, 2008 at 12:57 pm |
Tom,
The key to understand what is serious and what is not is to read this post.
I. Todyaso
October 22, 2008 at 11:29 pm |
That has got to be the most legalistic, pharisaical, nonsense I have ever read.
Get a hobby or get married or do something with your spare time and pent up frustration. You’ll blow a fuse if you’re not careful
November 30, 2008 at 9:44 pm |
I just saw this post and ,you have to be kidding.
I agree with Paul , you mist the whole point.
November 30, 2008 at 9:52 pm |
Sorry that’s missed the point
December 9, 2008 at 1:21 pm |
you actually are saying this…i have a suggestion for you…look up phillipians 3:8 and find out what that word is…john piper used an appropriate term…instead of getting mad at him get mad at all of
December 9, 2008 at 1:23 pm |
you actually are saying this…i have a suggestion for you…look up phillipians 3:8 and find out what that word is…john piper used an appropriate term…instead of getting mad at him get mad at all of these prosperity people who are giving people this crap instead of the Gospel of Jesus Christ…thank God for men like John Piper who plainly declare the truth
December 18, 2008 at 10:50 am |
Lol. Ok, I stumbled across this while looking for the recent promo video for DG’s upcoming conference, I had to comment. DID ANY OF YOU READ THE DISCLAIMER? SERIOUSLY? Try this: “Dude! This is a satire site! Before you get all bent out of shape, please realize this is a satire site spoofing the so-called “discernment ministries” who deem themselves more worthy of Grace than the rest of us. So read and have fun!” I mean, wow. It’s even built into the header image of the site. He couldn’t be much clearer. This whole thread is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.
March 3, 2009 at 1:45 pm |
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April 9, 2009 at 3:17 pm |
over exaggeration. since when did crap become such a ’swear’ word. All you seem to do is focus on that. What about the message he is talkin about?dont u understand that people r being taught the wrong thing?tbh u r d 1 talkin crap here..or wil u say jesus was wrong 4 calling the pharisees, hypocritees, which was waty dey were?tut
April 9, 2009 at 3:27 pm |
pami,
Please note in our banner it states:
The Online Discernmentalist Mafia
Protecting The Sovereign God and His Truth from those who are out to destroy the church. A SATIRE/PARODY blog.
Also note in the upper right hand corner on every page it states:
Dude! This is a satire site!
Before you get all bent out of shape, please realize this is a satire site spoofing the so-called “discernment ministries” who deem themselves more worthy of Grace than the rest of us. So read and have fun! BTW, we are not against “good” discernment ministries that do actual real research and extend grace to others, only the bad ones.
Now take a deep breath and learn to laugh a little…
iggy
June 26, 2009 at 9:00 pm |
crap. . .
since when did crap become profanity?
Ah crap man! i say crap all the time!
October 25, 2009 at 2:09 pm |
This site is a comedy site, right?