Steve Camp Twitters on the verge of becoming missional!

August 7, 2009

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Outraged! That is what I am with Steve Camp. First he begins to reconcile with others, then he removes certain high ranking ODM’s links from his blog and then today he tweets:

“For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, w ourselves as your slaves for Jesus’ sake.” -2 COR, 4:5 True ministry!about 7 hours ago

Without love we are nothing; we are nothing without love – 1 Cor. 13about 19 hours ago

God is practical & holy; we r prideful & sinful. Love is th moreexcellent way. We should pursu love & desire spiritual gifts – bt n tht ordrabout 19 hours ago 

Spiritual gifts r not th sign U hav th Holy Spirit. Loving God, th Lord Jesus Christ, His Word, yur famly, th brethrn, neighbor & enemies is about 19 hours ago 


As you can see, not only has his spelling become impaired, it seems that Steve does not know that messages like these are the core of the emerging missional message! Repent Steve!


Steve Camp loses Slice and shakes hands with the enemy!

May 5, 2009

A few years ago Steve Camp repented over blasphemous songs like this one and began writing songs about Martin Luther. Now it seems he is returning to the girly grace God he once sang about!

 Yes, Steve Camp is now even LESS judgmental than he was a year ago. We told you something was amiss as Steve Camp seems to be deleting great ODM sites like Slice and putting sites like Richard Abanes’ up in their place. Team Pyro was first to remove Ingrid’s site… then Steve and several others. This truly concerns us as now we have to make new T-shirts that say Steve Camp is now 48% less judgmental. Shame is brought to us all!

Now we are not offended by Steve Camp as the ODMafia was never listed by him either. Now there was a time people joked about being Slice Shunned slice-shunned and now it seems only the real ODM blogs like ODMafia and Slice are shunned for being so great! I consider that an endorsement!

Now it seems Steve is leaving Laodicea and he will be greatly missed!

Steve Camp Ruins Everything!

March 31, 2009


Steve Camp ruins everything! Yes, Steve has now become “emerging“! He has “reconciled with Mark Driscoll who we all know and love as the “cussing pastor” who cusses in every sentence he utters. Yes, it seems that Stevo has been sucking into the vortex of heresy! Let us hope this is just an early April Fool’s joke Steve Camp is playing!, If not, there is always next week!

Steve Camp backpedals and soft sells sin!

April 13, 2008

We here are a little confused as just as I was publishing the last great and well researched post, I took another look at Steve Camps blog and was greatly disturbed to see this disclaimer!

In case you missed it last night on Idol, the contestants sang “Shout To The Lord” again; this time the name of Jesus was left in! Great to see our Lord proclaimed through that song in that venue – regardless of the motives of some (Phil. 1:15-18). Amen?”

 No Steve, unlike you we cannot compromise on this important issue of pointing out Mark Driscoll is still Emergent! You can be soft on OUR Truth and wimp out on the Truth War all you want, but we here will stand firm on OUR TRUTH and against people who are sympathetic towards apostates like Driscoll. Be warned you are now on the “watch list”.

I might add that in the very next post, Steve shows some Emergent loving tendencies. Good gracious and wrathful God what is next?!? Will Steve also go speak with other Emergent Church leaders Doug Pagitt, Rob Bell at the Interspiritual Seeds of Compassion Event with Dalai Lama! We here hope not as the last thing this world needs is more compassion!

Quoting Steve Camp:

I am privileged to be invited back on the Michael Corley program today to debate Darrin Patrick on the subject of contextualization, the emerging church, and biblical evangelism. I have never met Darrin, and though he is part of the emerging movement, I have heard some good things associated with his church’s ministry in St. Louis.

This is not the Steve Camp we have come to love. Please repent and return to the true Discernmentalist you once were. I once heard you do a song called “Don’t tell them Jesus loves them, unless you are willing to love them to.” which in my naive younger daze thought was great. I was so happy to hear you renounced all that as sin. You of all people are worthy to attack others for their foul mouths.**

Jesus Wept,

I. Todyaso

* “Early in my own musical journey I wrote songs that neither represented good music or precise theology. My motives were vitiated; my actions were not godly; and my lips were unclean. The thirst for prominence and position made my heart prideful, judgmental and callused.”  Steve Camp

 **Look under TONGUES OF CONFUSION section for Steve Camp






Steve Camp Proves Mark Driscoll is still Emergent!

April 13, 2008


If you haven’t seen this yet, watch it and tell me what you think? (BTW, heads up – at the end of the song, Ben Stiller comes on and in an attempt to be comical says some expletives that are bleeped out though you can pretty much tell what he said.  For Mars Hill Church members, this will seem like Sunday morning worship; for everyone else, it will seem like Saturday night at the bowling alley.)


Kudos to Steve for showing the Truth Warrior he is and teaching us how to properly judge others. I am glad Steve still agrees with us Mark Driscoll should stop cussing in every one of his @*#$ing sermons!

(Sorry for that I lost my sanctification from watching that *&%ing video. So make sure you are prayed up before watching it! I now must go to my prayer closet and gain my sanctification back.)

Seeking after His Kingdom,

I. Todyaso

Please also read the update here

Migrants deserve to die declare Extra Super Pro-Life Christians for Torture Camps

September 10, 2019


“Holding pictures of migrant children who have died in U.S. custody….” How many children died in your town/city today because they had no person caring for them? How many of them were raped? How many of them are sick, drug addicted, waiting for the next person with money to have sex with them?
Hypocrites – you don’t take care of your own and make a spectacle of caring for others who have chosen to break the law?
How many babies have you aborted, piece by piece, cutting them up in the mother’s womb, or sucking them up into a machine? Helps one to feel altruistic when you bring foreigners into it though, eh?

Or maybe it is people being deluded that if they wilfully break the law, someone may care about them for a period, while neglecting those in need in their own country. Smacks of hypocrisy to me, as they have their pictures taken, neglecting young boys on the street being raped.

We here at the ODMafia agree as all these migrants are nothing but law breaking criminals who deserve to be punished for their crimes against humanity in crossing our God-ordained border. Laws such as:

The United States recognizes the right of asylum for individuals as specified by international and federal law. A specified number of legally defined refugees, who are not eligible to apply for asylum from inside the U.S., that have applied for refugee status through the U.N., are admitted annually.

If migrants didn’t want to die then they should’ve stayed behind in their own country or at least have the decency to have chosen to be born in the Only Exceptionally Great Country like Ours instead of their hellhole countries to begin with—they get what they deserve. Millions love our country—millions want to come to our country as they love our way of life—nobody loves these migrant countries nor want to go to them—that should tell you something and why we don’t need them here.  USA…USA…USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Bannon warns on migrant loving liberal socialist Christians:

Why can’t these liebrals follow good Capitalists like JPII and Saint Ronald Reagan?

Discernmentalists can learn much from old 3 Stooges movies

August 12, 2009


As I was watching some old movies I came to the conclusion that much can be learned from old 3 Stooges movies when it comes to Discernmentalism. Since they are no longer really popular, they are not relevant so they are safe to use as an example.

In a typical 3 Stooges movie, though they are all brothers, they always would abuse each other in various ways. Of course Curly would recive the most abuse. So that would represent how families should treat each ohter. They called each other names which again is a powerful tactic used by Discernmentalists. Then there is the interchangable brothers that would be replaced without any real mention why. Shemp would replace Curly with out a reason… much like some of us would remove links from our blogs of higher ODM’s such as in the case when Steve Camp removed Slice of Laodicea’s links from his blogs. These are but a few examples of how we ODM’s are much like the 3 Stooges. It is almost uncanny!

ODM Union has rough start getting going!

May 6, 2009

Picture taken at last DUM meeting.

ODMafia News Update: The Union of ODMer’s called, DUM is having a rough time getting going. It seems there is some disagreement as to who should lead the DUM (Discernmentalist Union Members) Infighting caused by Tim “I will not name names” Challies recent post about some ODMer’s being entertainment and not real ministries is the cause. Other Union representatives tried to help in the organization, yet it was said that Steve Camp received a horse head on his law with a message calling him a traitor.

 Other ODMer’s have reported that Pastorboy aka John Chisham has threatened others with invites to have “coffee” with him and speak “man to man”.

 Altogether this is a mess and a sure sign that the Truth War is suffering some major setbacks. We here at the ODMafia are hopeful that I. Todyaso will be appointed to organize and snuff out those who are defecting. Times are a changing and we need to get back to protecting our God and His fragile truth or all will be lost to bathing suit wearing, Miss America wanna be, anti gay marriage, so called Christian liberals like those at Focus on the Family!

We are the Glue!

April 9, 2009



I finally thought I could take a couple of weeks off to go on vacation and preach the gospel at some beach in Florida, yet it seems that I solely am the one that is the glue that holds all the ODM’s together. Recently Tim Challies did a sad article on how some ODM sites are just “entertainment”. Though he did not mention names, we here know it was about us… and also Slice of Laodicea. Then Steve Camp also wrote a post at this blog stating he desired to show more “grace” and even mentioned he may sit with Richard Abanes of all people and discuss “things”


Of course we side with Ingrid of Slice who mentioned us in a comment at Steve Camps blog. She was careful to mention us here as I am sure she knew we would side with her.

She stated:


If you are a “brother” to Richard Abanes and are prepared to fellowship with him after he destroyed Ken’s Apprising website, has repeatedly called me and several others “cult-like” and dangerous and sponsored his own Slice mock-up site for months, ridiculing and insulting me online, than something is terribly wrong. Richard continues his slander online and appears at any and every website that references discernment blogs. He is a serpent who shows up at every opportunity to inject venom into the reputation of those of us who seek to warn about false teaching. Steve, you have publicly said you will fellowship with him and have called him brother. Thank you for stating where you stand. I am glad to know that this is how you view unrepentant slanderers. You want to fellowship with someone who finds this funny. Note the comment section. Perhaps my husband should call you. [ Ingrid posted a link to itodyaso ]

Though we reported Steve was becoming less judgmental no one took us serious… and now see what is happening?


we side with you and know that if we are marked as Richard Abanes and other haters state we are, we will also lose revenue! All we ask is that you keep spreading the hate… may our God that hates sinners like Richard Abanes, Tim Challies and Steve Camp prevail! Let those of us who truly understand this Truth War overcome!

I. Todyaso


Note to reader: Richard Abanes does not sponsor this site. We would still take his money… Richard Abanes may comment at times here but does not contribute in any way unless I make fun of him. So Ingrid has committed slander against Richard and this site… but since we are on her side we will overlook this obvious stress related insanity she stated.

Shoving Planks… and ODM’s are saying this!?!?!

June 21, 2008

Recently I went to that apostate site as I heard Ken Silva was teaching mightily there. I also heard that Pastor John Chisham also known as Pastorboy was there beating the holy tar out of those emerging Warrenites! I was gleeful at first until I came across an accusations by Tim Reed who stated that Pastorboy had told someone to “Take their plank and shove it.”

I was shocked!

I was shocked that an apostate like Tim Reed would rebuke someone as holy as Pastorboy! Yet, I also realized that what Pastorboy stated was unwholesome and nasty and bordered on the homoerotic!

In fact here is his full quote to Tim.

pastorboy Says:
June 9th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

Hey Tim,

Take that plank and shove it. No really, i mean it. No satire. Straight up. I am sick and tired of your false accusations. Be a man and quit attacking me over the computer with your ignorant side comments. You don’t know me! I pray that you get born-again and find out what real love is. “OH PB, you don’t know what real love is” Whatever. If I have a log, yours is a redwood.


UPDATE: Pastorboy claims this was all satire, yet I will point out that he stated: “Take that plank and shove it. No really, i mean it. No satire.” He claims we are lying, yet it is obvious who really is.

 I am appalled at this sort of language. We have taken great pains as such people like Ken Silva and Steve Camp have gone far in revising our Church history to remove anything that might be crass. We love Luther, but deny any foul language or crassness that some claim as total falsehood.

I must state as some other writers here also have, that some ODM’s are losing sight of their own holy standard and becoming much too worldly. As a pastor myself I would tell my own church to leave it or defrock me if I was telling the unsaved or apostate to “Take that plank and shove it.”

Sadly John is not the only one that has stated this sort of thing, but we have given grace in the past, yet now it is sin just running amok in the ODM camp and must be dealt with! Sadly it was another emerging apostate that pointed out Chris Pajak, who sometimes writes for CRN, as stating something very similar! How sad when even apostates and heretics can so easily find sin in our own camp!

If we are to win in this Truth War of higher self righteous standards, we need to live by them.

I call that those who know John Chisham and his church call for his immediate dismissal as pastor at his church, we must keep the sinners like this out. Unless he is truly Elect then he can just repent and keep on sinning.

And John, the eye is painful enough place to have a plank, we do not need new places to shove them into.

Jesus wept,

I. Todyaso

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