Ken Ham accidentally Converts Someone to Atheism

November 12, 2019

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In a shocking move of Discernmentalism noted Creationist and award-winning Discernmentalist apologist Ken Ham of Answers In Genesis fame accidentally converted a seminary student recently (around last year) to atheism:

… When [Ham] debated Bill Nye the Science Guy on the scientific legitimacy of creationism, I was about halfway through law school and organized a debate watch party, ordered pizza, and gathered my evangelical colleagues to root for Ham together. So imagine how devastating it was to watch my childhood icon be so embarrassingly destroyed before my very eyes. Ken Ham brought faith to an evidence fight, and even my fundamentalist creationist eyes could see it. I resolved in that moment to learn more about evolution, astronomy, and geology so that, when it was my turn to debate the Bill Nyes of the world, I would do better than Ken Ham had. … my desire to be an effective apologist left me with nothing to defend. I had wanted nothing more than to reinforce my faith, but willing myself to believe something that just didn’t make sense was no longer sustainable. So adrift on a sea of chaos, I called my then-fiance, who was doing missions work in Asia at the time, and begged her not to leave me as her faith insisted she would have to.

I can’t speak for anyone else who’s left Christianity or what they are looking for, but for me, the best community so far has been Humanism, starting around early 2018. … and dialogue robustly about thought-provoking issues where questions, not creeds, unify us. As we grow, we may just find a use for some of those empty churches after all.

Now that I spend most of my days with people who have left or are still leaving Christianity, I’ve come to appreciate Pascal’s Wager differently. Never in any stage of my journey have I met a person who converted to Christianity because of Pascal’s Wager. But what I have encountered are countless instances of Christians who stay in the faith in spite of their doubts because of Pascal’s Wager. To someone who already experiences Christianity as their normal and sees nonbelief as the scary unknown, it is an apologetic tool that works as an incredible holding strategy. Evangelicalism, though, is on the decline. As fewer people each generation grow up with Christianity as their normal, the apologetics that have been fairly effective at keeping believers in will have to evolve if they want to move forward in an increasingly secular world.—Luke Douglas

Here another soul has been lost to atheism. Not to mention you can see the mental deterioration of this sad atheist, as Ken Ham did not use proper pre-suppositional apologetics like our site to stand firm in our Doctrine and destroy Bill Nye…for shame! For shame. He should have used Hoofendorfer’s Law as we are always right.

 

A Post Of Dr. I. Todyaso’s related to this one: Proof atheists become dumber when listening to Brannon Howse


Discernmentalist Values…

October 20, 2019

Brannon Howse: …I’ve been dealing with the issue of social justice, the social Gospel, collectivism, globalism, internationalism, statism, whatever you want to call it. It’s a lot of the same thing, saving socialism, for many, many years. I’ve been writing and speaking now for close to 30 years. 28 years I think to be precise, and written several books, and I’m not one of these guys that just writes books to have books to write. I try to write books that are very pertinent and timely and if I don’t write a book for a few years that’s fine, but after so many years of studying this and watching the things from the left come within mainstream Evangelicalism, yes we know that the mainline liberal churches are doing all this, but now to watch social justice, socialism, redistribution of wealth, the pushing of reparations, which is going to be a tax to try to make up for slavery, reparations in America, that’ll be a part of a Reagan-type campaign by the Marxists. Mandatory minimum incomes, that’ll be again something that’s being really promoted by groups like the Gospel Coalition, and again who would oppose it when it’s coming from a group like the Gospel Coalition with well-known Evangelicals involved They’re pushing all these things and more, and this is in the mainstream Evangelical area. Guys like Jim Wallace, Ron Sider, Tony Campolo, who have always been on the far left and promoting and praising pretty much every Communist revolution in South America, claiming the Anti-Communists were part of the dark forces, all these guys who were in the ’80s seen as being what they were, leftist Neo-Marxist, and now they’ve come mainstream into Evangelicalism and people we never thought are locking arms with them and literally working with them and serving on boards and committees together, and so I’m seeing the merging of Marxism with Christianity. …One (false idea) would be this idea that we owe the poor as much money as we can give them. There’s an article in Christianity Today a few years ago where Tim Keller is being interviewed and he said that. “We owe the poor as much money as we can give them.” That’s nowhere in the Bible. These guys take a lot of verses in the New Testament dealing with the New Testament Church and they take the word poor, which often is dealing with the spiritual poor, the spiritual bankrupt, the beggar who cannot save himself, he’s spiritually bankrupt. That’s why Christ cried out on the cross, “It is finished. Debt paid in full.” Banking term. The righteous life of Christ can be imputed or credited to your account through faith and repentance, two sides of a coin. “By grace, through faith you’re saved. Now of yourself, [inaudible 00:06:54].” He mentioned both. That was a banking term. It’s a transaction. Debt paid in full. It’s done. “We’ve been put on the auction block and we were on the auction block and our master was sin. We’ve been purchased with a price. We are not our own. Christ bought us with His own blood.” These verses that deal with the poor are often the spiritual poor, the spiritual bankrupt, the beggar. They want to take them and say that we need to give to the poor and help the poor, and they take a lot of Scripture out of context to do it. Matthew 25 is one of their favorites. “I was naked. I was in prison,” all this. That’s Jesus dividing the kingdom. Excuse me, Jesus setting up His kingdom. At the second coming, dividing the sheep from the goats. Again, they take Scripture out of context. There’s not one verse in the New Testament says that the New Testament Church is to redistribute its limited resources to the unsafe poor. Now that does not mean that we cannot be helping unsafe poor people as a platform the Gospel, but no call for redistribution of wealth to the unsafe poor but definitely to care for the poor inside the New Testament Church.

Sam Rohrer: The insidious cloaking and mixing of economics, wealth, and power and money on one hand, which is within the purview of the jurisdiction of civil government, with the Biblical concern for the poor, the needy, and those who are without, which are within the purview and responsibility of the Church, the mixing of these two is one major strategy of cultural Marxism, but it’s the inappropriate mixing as they do. The Bible’s clear on all matters of life and living, and if carefully applied, will always bring the results that God promises.” (Source)

We proudly support Discernmentalist Values. We support taking Scriptures out of context to support Capitalism as everyone knows capitalism is Biblical. We know the Crucified Christ approves of this. We know the Reformers would support us in our anti-Social Justice gospel as Luther said:

 “He who has nothing to live should be aided. If he deceives us, what then? He must be aided again.”

“ . . . In a well-arranged commonwealth the debts of the poor who are in need ought to be cancelled, and they ought to be helped; hence the action of collecting has its place only against the lazy and the ne’er-do-well” (“Lectures on Deuteronomy”).

So remember to uncritically support:

  • Free-market Capitalism instead of Social Justice.
  • War-mongering instead of peace-making
  • Corporate slavery instead of freedom
  • Ignorance instead of education
  • Conspiracy Theories instead of facts
  • Fake News instead of reality and Truth

Ignorance is our strength—it’s the Discernmentalist Way!

ODMafia approved


Farewell again @John Piper!

May 22, 2019

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The push of the social gospel is now reaching even those who have been staunch supporters of the work we do here at ODMafia. Our beloved and revered under leader of reformed theology, John Piper, has slipped the tracks. Abandoning the true faith for the man pleasing Gospel of Shane Claiborne. In the following video you will hear Pastor Piper declare to the “Young, Restless, and Reformed” crowd to not waste their lives on retirement. Instead he admonishes them to consider; clean water, homeless people, and the needy:

I too like my fellow Discernmentalists am becoming so tired of hearing people in the church talking about being on the social justice committee. There is a difference between justice and social justice! For one Social Justice is cultural marxism and every church needs to get on the same page and disavow themselves from using this leftest marxist terminology and simply call their churches work justice, plain and simple! Secondly Social justice sounds too like Satan’s doctrine: socialism…and you don’t clink glass with the devils cohort’s or entertain the devils terminology even when it sound all warm and fuzzy. “Idiots”!!!!

Are any of our Doctrines and fellow Reformed types safe from being perverted by the heretical hordes? Finally my faithful Truth Warriors I leave you this quote from our Beloved Over-leader John MacArthur (PBUH):

aspects of true justice are conspicuously missing from the recent evangelical dialogue touting “social justice.” Instead, what we hear is an echo of the same accusatory rhetoric and political slogans being shouted by secular social justice warriors. That fact ought to awaken the Berean urge in every Christian.


Are The Council on Biblical Manhood and womanhood Evanjellyfish?

May 14, 2019

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The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood (CBMW) exposed as weak gutless grace wimpy girliemen as per our Clear Teachings that all Truly Biblical manly-men have beards. In fact we’re beginning to question the Spine of their doctrines as they claim to teach gender distinction but are all clean shaven men. Where does such thinking come from? Where is the consistency when it is taught women have to dress like women and know their place but men can claim “christian liberty” when it comes to shaving off the God given mark of masculinity.

Only spineless Evanjellyfish would shave their beards off—now we all know Spurgeon the Prince of Preachers had a beard that’s why his Doctrines were so Pure as did Calvin. Luther once had a beard but had a lapse of judgment and shaved it off—if only he had followed Calvin’s example when he started the Protestant Reformation when Calvin was only 8 years old. We believe that’s why he erred in attacking our Truth that Calvin’s teachings are the most important teachings in all of Church History as any True Reformer would like John MacArthur (PBUH)*:

 It is recorded that Luther later said that Calvin was “educated, but strongly suspected of the error of the Sacramentarians.”[1] That is, that Calvin did not believe the same things regarding the Lord’s Supper as the Lutheran Reformers.

In this it appears that in Luther’s grand biography Calvin does not receive a great deal of mention. For Luther, Calvin would appear perhaps as a footnote.

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*- John MacArthur (PBUH) author of The Truth War

How can the CBMW expect to stop the GLBT hordes if they refuse to follow the Bible’s Clear Teachings that all True and Godly manly-men have beards?

In our current culture, the progressive trends of gender confusion and transgenderism is all the more reason we should uphold the biblical picture of a masculine man by having beards to stand separated from the pagan culture of today.

Thankfully you have True Bible-based ministries like ours with the Spines and beards to prove it to help protect you in the Purity of our facial hair—and the Sound Doctrines of the Ways of the Master himself which teach Absolute Biblical Truth in his book The Truth War: Fighting for Certainty in an Age of Deception from the spineless beardless GLBT Evanjellyfish agenda slipping into our churches.

 


Extra! Extra! Smocking Gun: Pulpit & Pen/Planned Parenthood One and the Same! More Evidence…

May 13, 2019

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It took longer to recharge our Research Robot Monkeys than we thought as we had to recalibrate Eric Barger’s Smocking Gun machine for them to use. Afterwards they stumbled upon this quote attributed to our boogie man George Soros on a highly questionable site run by QAnon members which means it must be authentic and not a manufactured quote that we made up  by ourselves. This proves the smocking guns against Party & Propaganda aka Bulpit and Pen now Planned Pulpithood (PP) that Eric Barger’s machine found since George Soros (Nazi man in picture in his 20s when Soros was around 9 years old at the outbreak of WWII) funds abortionists and crisis actors.

In fact Planned Pulpithood themselves have stated that  George Soros (Nazi man in picture in his 20s when Soros was around 9 years old at the outbreak of WWII) who funds abortionists and crisis actors also funds Evangelicalism and SBC groups of which Planned Pulpithood are a part of. Quote:

Pulpit & Pen (aka now as Planned Pulpithood) has been exposing George Soros’ funding and partnership of Russell Moore and James Riady’s funding of Ligon Duncan. In reality, both Soros and Riady have been funding numerous groups and speakers who are represented at the The Gospel Coalition, Together for the Gospel, and the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. However, much of their funding is “Dark Money” contributions that come not directly from Soros or Riady, but from a series of “foundations” (sometimes the cash goes through nearly a dozen foundations before it reaches institutions like SBTS, TGC, the ERLC or RTS).

We also now have reason to suspect that George Soros (Globalist Billionaire) funded the people that inserted liberal unbiblical Bible verses such as these into our Pure Bibles:

  • “Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, and please the widow’s cause,” (Isaiah 1:17).
  • “He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?” (Micah 6:8).
  • “But woe to you Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and neglect justice and the love of God. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others,” (Luke 11:42).

Is their anything Planned Pulpithood via George Soros (Globalist Billionaire)’s funding will do to destroy the purity of Doctrines? I’m sure also that George Soros (Globalist Billionaire) funded the internet to fabricate pro-Social Justice quotes by Luther and Calvin as well.

“After the devil there is no greater human enemy on earth than a miser and usurer, for he desires to be above everyone. Turks, soldiers, and tyrants are also evil men, yet they must allow the people to live . . . ; indeed, they must now and then be somewhat merciful. But a usurer and miser—belly desires that the entire world be ruined in order that there be hunger, thirst, misery, and need so that he can have everything and so that everyone must depend upon him and be his slave as if he were God.” “Daily the poor are defrauded. New burdens and high prices are imposed. Everyone misuses the market in his own willful, conceited, arrogant way, as if it were his right and privilege to sell his goods as dearly as he pleases without a word of criticism.” “He who has nothing to live should be aided. If he deceives us, what then? He must be aided again.” —Luther on Usury

Thankfully there’s no real dirt on the Billionaires that fund our pet causes.


Discernmentalists Make Hugh Jass of Themselves

May 12, 2019

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Phil Johnson of the mighty Truth Warrior Blog Pyromaniacs the right hand man of the Ways of the Master himself taught us all we know in how to be a Hugh Jass. Phil revealed his Hugh Jass when he made a site to expose all to the truth of King James Onlyism. Just like him we made this Hugh Jass site to expose all to the truth of graceless Discernment ministries like Phil’s mighty Pyromaniacs. We hope we never lose our Hugh Jass or his. All Discernmentalists are required to expose their Hugh Jass.  In fact we must humbly thank this Anonymous Emergent Commenter (Name Withheld) on one of our non-Socialist media sites for helping us to bare our Hugh Jass for all the world to see—quote:

“Nah, I see zero moral difference between the *censored for a word Mark Driscoll once used* that writes this outlandish *censored for your mother would be ashamed* to incite outrage, and the *censored for unbiblical cuss word* that post this outlandish *censored for edification* to incite others to be outraged with them.”

This just proves how our Mighty Doctrines save sinners as we now suspect he has converted to our ways of Discernmentalism. In fact we see zero moral difference between Anonymous Emergent Commenter (Name Withheld) that wrote that outlandish comment to incite outrage, and Fox News viewers/Breitbart readers that post similar outlandish comments to incite others to be outraged with them. For example:

Antifa (literally anti-Fascists) are the same as ISIS and actual Fascists for exposing and opposing Fascists

Anti-Racists are the same as Racists ie. Reverse Racists/anti-white for talking about racism and exposing/opposing racists

Or even worse as Paige Patterson said: “The Survivor Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP) are as reprehensible as sex criminals.” for being an organization bent on exposing abusers and protecting victims


When Discernment Turns Super Extra Ugly – An Exclusive Alert! Part 2

May 2, 2019

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As promised we bring you part 2 of my series:

Eric Barger trades in certainty, modernity & absolute truth for the evils of Roman Catholicism. We cannot believe this! We knew the great apostasy was almost upon us – but we figured we would have at least a few more weeks.

We at ODMafia are saddened that someone who owned the one and only Bible Belt, & who originally had mastered the true doctrines of the faith, and possessed the most bible based website on the planet has traded in his faith for some religious pottage….sympathizing with Roman Catholicism (ie he embraces the Apostle & Nicene creeds)….thanks to Galatians 4 for this discernmentalism.

Remember – any connection or sympathy with the RC Church is to embrace the church.

We wouldn’t be surprised that by next week Eric becomes a Mormon, or a Jehovah’s Witness.

We appreciate once again Galatians 4 for pointing this discernmentalism out. Now we are 28.9% more paranoid than Eric -since he pointed out this dastardly deed of discernmentalism. See here at this link: When Discernmentalism gets ugly!

 

Truthslayer.


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