Cult leader exposed? One of our own…

October 30, 2009

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Our readers are aware that our research robot monkeys never sleep. Deep in a lead lined, electromagnetic pulse proof bunker deep in the earth they work tirelessly to expose the truth and the underbelly of all that is false. (mostly everyone). You can rest assured that if we say it here it is gospel truth and you must not question or doubt anything we print in electronic form. We decide what is true, it is your duty to believe it without question.

Under the noses of many discernmentalists and avid followers of Take A Stand Ministries we have discovered that Eric admitted out in the OPEN that he is a DANGEROUS CULTIST!!!

Don’t believe us?

Take a look at the DVD that Eric himself uses to out himself. It is highly unusual that a discernmentalist will accuse himself of being a cult leader (but sometimes our rational is convoluted -so you must understand), but Eric’s sharp shooting discernmentalism has beat him at his own game…. he’s that good.

Our research robot monkeys have been wrestling with the fuzzy word next to Eric’s name for several minutes… using a special research robot monkey discernment algorithm. Acquiring the latest technology in discernmentalism forensics ( ie Corel Draw 4, ) we have determined that the word next to Eric is inconclusive. As a discernmentalist we demand answers, and shun any ambiguity whatsover (inconclusive is a bad word!) Therefore, we have decided to insert what we THINK the word is regardless of how that might effect Take A Stand. We care so much about the truth that we are willing to overlook it to prove how right we are. By inserting words into texts that may or may not be there and drawing all sorts of strange conclusions is what a discernmentalist does.

Remember, let us do the thinking for you so that you don’t have to!

The ODMafia, making truth as simple as back and white.

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PS (on a serious note) I recommend the following for a serious look on how to do a proper evaluation Pastor Scott’s blog.


Take A Stand gives expert advice on spotting the Emergent Church

September 21, 2009

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According to Eric Barger, ” Today, one doesn’t have to look far to see the spiritual disrepair that liberalism has left the denominations in. Because of the longstanding apostasy of the spiritual liberals [ but not spiritual conservatives, because we are untouchable], untold millions have already entered eternity without Jesus Christ – having previously believed that those entrusted with teaching them the Christian faith were doing so faithfully and authentically.”

ODMafia went on the prowl….we sent our research robot monkeys behind the scenes to find the authentic Emergent Church (EC). We discovered that the EC are actually eaters of human flesh and drinkers of blood, and a freakish cult who chat about being missionaries at work, at play about some dead dude who rose again from the grave. We didn’t want to get too close because we did not want to be the NEXT victims. So we used surveillance cameras, post-it notes, etch-a-sketch (to catch the likeness of these cultists) to capture the essence of what it is and means to be in enraptured by this spiritual liberalism.

What did we find? Vampires (just was we thought!), and werewolves… although none were transformed into these creatures but we could TELL by the shifty eyes that they were indeed emergent underlings. We also found the TERMINATOR who came back from the future to obviously destroy truth warriors and attack the true church.  This goes to show you just how far the EC will go to destroy the church!!!!

Moreover, we discovered some were vampire fans of the movie Twilight…..which clearly shows us what kind of people these Emergents are. We also sighted one emergent without hair….that’s right…BALD (another twisted emergent characteristic). How sick is that?????????

Among other  things that have been discovered (as suggested in previous posts)….we spotted couches, candles and sometimes left-over coffee cups (often left in the recycled bin which suggests that they are Earth worshipers). Surely this has new age undertones.

Beware folks! We take our research seriously….and so should you.

Truthslayer


You are so good at naming the sins of others…we know!

August 6, 2009

sinnerPastor Scott has written something something for you folks! It is damning really! We urge YOU to pay attention. Let us clarify that this is written f or YOU….NOT US.

“You are so good at naming the sins of others. It’s easy for you to stand in the pulpit and preach about what ‘those people’ are doing, or how ‘those people’ are destroying the culture. You love to hold up their wickedness because it helps you to feel self-justified.”

The ODMafia, can ignore this admonition….afterall, we don’t sin like you, we only point out your sins (we call it ministry) because we love you so much. We hope you understand, and believe us it hurts you more than it does us….so sit back, relax and let us criticize you so that WE may feel more self satisfied. You see we at ODMafia have our spiritual lives together, we got our T’s crossed, our I’s dotted.  ODMafia are simple bible-believers. You should strive to be more like us.

Please don’t take this the wrong way…we are doing this for your own good.


The newest drink of heretics!

July 20, 2009

Emerge drinksI suspected something was in the water that was causing all this new heresy! Now I know what is going on. They are all drinking Emerge! If they were real Christians they would be drinking Kool Aid!


Eric “Take A Stand” Barger valiantly defends Wesley against McLaren

July 19, 2009

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So called Pastor Scott notes “Eric Barger has criticized Brian McLaren for saying that if John Wesley were alive today that he would be an emerging church leader. Brian made that comment in the light of Wesley’s tendency to take his preaching into the fields and to use methods around him (including bar tunes) to extend the gospel. We need renewal movements like the EC reminding us to take the good news to where broken people are.”

Pastor Scott, its ok for Wesley to be innovative, think outside the box and to go so far as to use dirty bar tunes for the gospel. That is because the suspicious word EMERGING was not invented yet. You see anything different or creative or imaginative is BAD BAD BAD today. Luther used the printing press, that is ok because…that was “back then” and “this is now.” If you try to explain the gospel in a way that is tangible to a post-modern that is BAD BAD BAD…because Post-Moderns need hell…not Jesus. Moderns are ok though….because most of us think and use a framework based on this model.

Remember its not enough just to disagree with McLaren…we must contend (if we are orthodox and the side of truth) that he is going to hell….

In the future please check with us…or be relegated to the Camp of the Apostates.


Pastor Scott making us sick! More “EC” buzzwords found….

July 2, 2009

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Our Online Research Robot Monkeys have discovered more nonsense from so-called Pastor Scott that just makes us sick!

He says “Certainly the EC are not the first nor the only group to emphasize radical discipleship, but I do believe that many people (especially young people) are attracted to the EC because of the creative ways the EC is trying to embody the holistic life of the disciple in the world. In particular, the EC is trying to find ways to embody the present but not-yet reality of the kingdom of God through practices of love, compassion, and justice.”

I’m getting sicker by the moment. Liberal-new-age-buzzwords that are as unbiblical as they come are making me dizzy.

Love?

Compassion?

Justice?

Give us a break…its all about doctrine! Abstract ideas. That is what its about.

In addition so-Pastor Scott also states “The Body of Christ is never a fixed entity it is always alive and developing. Certainly the Scriptures form the “rule of faith” for how and in what ways the Church should be formed, but it is nevertheless the reality that in every culture and successive generation the gospel of Jesus Christ finds ways to be re-formed. The great Reformation of Luther’s era was not the end of the Church’s development theologically, ecclesiastically, liturgically, etc. It certainly marked a unique moment of massive transformation, but the Church that is reformed is continuously reforming.

The EC is one group that is keenly aware of the current re-forming taking place in the Church.”

Sounds to me like the EC church is trying some kind-a-fake-counterfeit Reformation. ONLY the Reformers are allowed to Reform! Unless we see fit to reform.

If the EC THINKS that they can take OUR place, the the place fitting for a DISCERNMENTALIST…they are dead wrong. We will be the ones doing the judging and the kicking out…and we call that MINISTRY. There will be no room for mamby-pamby-unbiblical-compassion and love. As a matter of fact there is NO need for reform today…except that which we criticize. And there is a lot of stuff we feel called to criticize as part of our very special ministry of criticism.


Suspicion is best when researching says ODMAfia

July 2, 2009

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Pastor Scott says “There are some who won’t like this question because the word “emerging” itself has become such a negative term that the idea that anything of value might come out of the EC is anathema. But I believe that even the most ardent opponents of the EC need to have more of a hermeneutic of charity (rather than a hermeneutic of suspicion)”

Are you serious? Discernmentalism is founded on fear and suspicion!!! We should know!

If we were to evaluate theology on another basis we would have to use the bible properly  and apply love, be humble, our use our rational faculties, common sense and even be objective and all that stuff.

Besides a hermeneutic of charity is anti-biblical. We can’t find a single verse in the New Testament that would suggest loving our enemies…and we have TWO dusty bibles.

We can’t adhere to so called Pastor Scott’s advice and still have an audience that will follow us. We demand at least 2 hits a day.

We can’t adhere to so called Pastor Scott’s advice and sell our our books, T-shirts, and DVDs without spreading fear and outrage….at the delight of our audience.

We implore our readers to our DEFAULT mode of fear, and suspicion….and DEFINITELY  no hermeneutic of charity! That in itself sounds like a post-liberal-modern combo that we must come against. An apologist who wanted to remain nameless suggested “We need more suspicion in ministry.”


Emerging Church Buzzwords Detected by ODMAFIA!

June 30, 2009

Pastor Scott deliberately says “Certainly the fact that many people resonate so deeply with the emerging conversation ought to cause all believers to pause and reflect on the reasons why the EC has sparked such interest (beyond simplistically sighting “deception” as the cause).”
Here are our key Emerging Church buzzwords of suspicion:
1) Resonate. Only Emerging Apostates resonate. Real bible Christians simply read their bibles.
2) Reflect. Only Emerging Apostates reflect. Real bible Christians don’t reflect anything….they just read their bibles.
So the real deception Pastor Scott is your sinister BUZZWORDS that resonate and reflect!
buzzPastor Scott deliberately says “Certainly the fact that many people resonate so deeply with the emerging conversation ought to cause all believers to pause and reflect on the reasons why the EC has sparked such interest (beyond simplistically sighting “deception” as the cause).”
Here are our key Emerging Church buzzwords of suspicion:

1) Resonate. Only Emerging Apostates resonate. Real bible Christians simply read their bibles.
2) Reflect. Only Emerging Apostates reflect or think. Real credible bible-believing Christians don’t reflect anything….we just read their bibles.
In addition Pastor Scott attempts to turn OUR favourite word “deception” around and use it on us and assume it is merely simplistic to do so. Who’s the simplisticans now Pastor Scott? Eh? Huh? Our expert discernmentalism cannot be fooled.
So the real deception Pastor Scott is your sinister BUZZWORDS that resonate and reflect! Hmmmmph. We are appalled. We REFUSE to either resonate or reflect. We will not succumb to your superior intellect, balanced outlines or thoughtful articles.
We like our blind unquestioned Reformed traditionalism wrapped in discernmentalism.

A horrible threat has come to attack one of our own!

June 28, 2009

 

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A horrible threat has come to attack one of our own!

 

I received a very excited email that one of our own was caught…. Lying! Now I will address this issue but to appear being fair and to show my incredible discernementalist skill I will address this post by Pastor Scott who is undermining his own denomination by attacking Eric Barger who is a truly gifted and talented discernementalist. Here is a portion of the ridiculous claims of this so-called Pastor Scott!

 

So called Pastor Scott states:

Secondly, in addressing the concerns made about the EC, I’m going to primarily pay attention to folk like those I have already mentioned and I’m going to virtually ignore most of the “concerned” websites out there. I am doing that on purpose because I have to admit that I absolutely cannot stand the tactics I have seen employed by many of the “Concerned Nazarene” anti-emergent bloggers and self-publishers. I have a number of complaints against them, but my primary complaint is the number of time quotes are taken out of context. This is a frequent practice and very frustrating. Let me give you one example of hundreds. In a highly viewed video on YouTube EC critic Eric Barger quotes writer Brian McLaren as stating that, “The challenge today is not whether you are right but whether you are good.” Barger quotes this sentence in a video taped presentation as evidence that the EC is abandoning truth. The actual quote in context can be found on page 61 of McLaren’s book A New Kind of Christian. Here is the actual quote in context:

“…Neo plunged right back into our conversation: ‘Dan, when it comes to other religions, the challenge in modernity was to prove that we’re right and they’re wrong. But I think we have a different challenge in postmodernity. The question isn’t so much whether we’re right but whether we’re good. And it strikes me that goodness, not just rightness, is what Jesus said the real issue was – you know, good trees produce good fruit, that sort of thing. If we Christians would take all the energy we put into proving we’re right and others are wrong and invested that energy in pursuing and doing good, somehow I think that more people would believe we are right…. I’m not in any way saying truth isn’t important. But I am saying that truth means more than factual accuracy. It means being in sync with God.’”

Not only does Barger not get the quote correct, but in its full context the quote means almost the exact opposite of what he accuses McLaren of saying. In its proper context McLaren’s comment is fairly innocuous and probably something most Christians would agree with. Unfortunately I see this kind of unfairness to the actual statements of those they are criticizing happen quite frequently. In fact, I believe they regularly participate in slander.

I also greatly struggle with the win-at-all-costs mentality displayed by many. I do think standing up for orthodoxy is critical in the Church but I also think we need to heed at least two scriptural warnings. The first is the blindness the Pharisees had to Jesus that led to the “unpardonable sin” of blaspheming the Holy Spirit. I take the message of that troublesome text (Luke 12:10) to be that we should always be very careful to call something “not of God” if it indeed may be of God. Second, Ephesus, the first of the seven churches in Revelation 2-3 was praised for having strong filters of orthodoxy but it was chastised for losing its “first love.” I think there is a deep relationship between the way the Church carries its filters of orthodoxy and its demonstration of love. I don’t believe that we have to choose between orthodox doctrine and love, but I think some of the tone and destructive tactics that we are witnessing in the Church over these issues does demonstrate that it is all too easy to lose sight of the centrality of loving one another when contesting over doctrine. And if we lose our love, we have ceased to be Christ’s Church.

 

Dear heretic Pastor Scott,

How dare you attack the Self Righteousness of Eric Barger and question his ability to read and comprehend and thus question his ability to misrepresent Brian McLaren. Eric Barger of Take a Stand Ministries would never lie… he, being a greatly gifted Discernementalist would only revise the quotes to prove that Brian McLaren is the heretic that Eric and all the rest of us decided he is. For you to stoop so low as to put the quote in context is unbearably irresponsible! You are killing your own denomination with this so called honesty! Do you now see that God needs us to protect him in this Truth War where OUR Doctrines are being torn apart by the emerging church? Do you not see that Truth is so fragile that it must be protected!? Good grief! Are you even a real Christian at all?

My dearest friend Eric is a top notch scholar and even has many videos and cd’s he sells to prove how smart he is! Maybe you need to stay off Youtube.com (most likely viewing the perverted emerging videos) and order some of Eric’s great materials so you can be really educated. You will never understand emerging by reading those from that hideous field of heretical thought. You must get your truth and understanding from the likes of us who can filter out the garbage and tell you how we see it… it does not matter what they really say or what you think they say… it ONLY MATTERS WHAT WE THINK THEY SAY AND REVISE THEIR QUOTES TO MEAN!

I suspect that you may not really be Elect so cannot see the truth if it hit you in the head. You need to read Ken Silva’s missives, Slice of Laodicea, Eric Barger, Discerning the World and most importantly, the ODMafia (We are starting the Discernementalist University so people like you can learn how to discern without questioning us!)

I hope those that read your blog see the error of you ways and understand how crazy you sound! Hell will be hot… do you feel the heat yet? BTW I guess you have not heard that Eric Barger also has a time machine and can not tell us if someone is going to be heretical before they even speak! So in closing I will finish with this… Bwahahhahaa!

Mercy and Grace will follow me all the days of my life,

I Todyaso

(I. Todyaso was mentored by Ken Silva by listening to him on the radio and reading his missives)


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